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Posted: 09 July 2008 11:13 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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Hiya
Just bought the Mondial knitting pattern book with 46 patterns, there are a few that I would like to knit, but I bought it for one in particular.  The problem is the instructions, I will add the first few lines and see if anyone can decode it for me as i am totally lost.

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Work vertically, doing the back and fronts at the same time. Start with the hem of the opening on the front right. Cast on 147 st.,do 4 turns using tubular st. and 1 1/2” using 1/1 ribbing but always do 3 st. on each side using tubular st.

the whole pattern goes on like that not like a british pattern at all, any help would be greatly appreciated. Ta for now.

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Posted: 09 July 2008 11:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Sounds a bit like sock knitting to me - if working on a circular needle anyway.  Soundss like they’re saying cast on 147 sts (I mark my first stitch with a bit of spare wool in a different colour) then do 4 “rows” (this is where you need to use the bit of wool to mark the first stitch) - these first4 rows sound like its stocking stitch (when using a circular you only knit rows, no purling) - then 1 1/2” of 1x1-k1p1 rib but beginning and ending of each row got to be stocking stitch for 3 stitches.  If I am talking out of my **** I’m sure someone will correct me- but it might be worth a go.

Hope this is helpful.  Gill is one of the best for sorting out probs so hopefully she’ll be along soon....

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Posted: 09 July 2008 11:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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thanks lieghb, thats what I thought but there is no circular or dp needles needed in the pattern just a pair of size 5 needles. Its a puzzle to me, I think it is an italian pattern translated into english.

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Posted: 09 July 2008 12:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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It does sound a bit odd, but good luck with it!

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Posted: 09 July 2008 12:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Hi Carol, does it give you instructions for doing the tubular stitch, it may well be an Icord?

From what you’ve said I’m guessing it’s a cardigan pattern you’re knitting.  I which case you’ll probably be working the back and fronts together and then dividing the stitches at the sleeves and working them separately.  The tubular stitch is presumably the edging up the middle of the two fronts?

Have you got a picture of the pattern at all/pattern number?  It’d help us to help you if you have smile

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Posted: 09 July 2008 12:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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INTRUCTIONS
Work vertically, doing the back and fronts at the same time. Start with the hem of the opening on the front right. Cast on 147 st.,do 4 turns using tubular st. and 1 1/2” using 1/1 ribbing but always do 3 st. on each side using tubular st.

the whole pattern goes on like that not like a british pattern at all, any help would be greatly appreciated. Ta for now.

To me this part sounds like doing a double hem.

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Posted: 09 July 2008 12:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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Do you know what I mean when I say double hem?  You knit a portion of STST then when the garment is FINISHED you turn that portion up to the part where the “pattern” (in this case k1p1 rib) starts then hem it on the wrong side giving you a really nice professional look.  I have quite some years knitting experience but it goes nowhere compared to the likes of Gill, KnittingOma etc etc!  Good luck once again

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Posted: 09 July 2008 12:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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hiya again
it says for stitch instructions-tubular stitch.(to start and finish)

http://www.yeoman-yarns.co.uk/shop/customer/home.php?cat=75

above is a link for the book (pattern is on the front).

ta again
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Posted: 09 July 2008 12:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Lucy - 09 July 2008 12:14 PM

Hi Carol, does it give you instructions for doing the tubular stitch, it may well be an Icord?

From what you’ve said I’m guessing it’s a cardigan pattern you’re knitting.  I which case you’ll probably be working the back and fronts together and then dividing the stitches at the sleeves and working them separately.  The tubular stitch is presumably the edging up the middle of the two fronts?

Have you got a picture of the pattern at all/pattern number?  It’d help us to help you if you have smile

Personally, Lucy I don’t think it’s an I-cord - you would only cast on a small amount of stitches for that and work til you had the LENGTH required not work it from length to width.

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Posted: 09 July 2008 12:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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ive tried attaching a scan of the pattern dont know if it will work

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Posted: 09 July 2008 12:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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ok that didnt work
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Posted: 09 July 2008 12:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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This link mentions how to do tubular stitch.  Hope it’s helpful
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http://www.math.unl.edu/~gmeisters1/papers/Knitting/techniques.html

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Posted: 09 July 2008 02:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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Hi Carol BTW so sorry for not welcoming you to our little home!
It’s not much but we like it!

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Posted: 09 July 2008 03:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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carolbaggins - 09 July 2008 11:13 AM

Hiya
Just bought the Mondial knitting pattern book with 46 patterns, there are a few that I would like to knit, but I bought it for one in particular.  The problem is the instructions, I will add the first few lines and see if anyone can decode it for me as i am totally lost.

INTRUCTIONS
Work vertically, doing the back and fronts at the same time. Start with the hem of the opening on the front right. Cast on 147 st.,do 4 turns using tubular st. and 1 1/2” using 1/1 ribbing but always do 3 st. on each side using tubular st.

the whole pattern goes on like that not like a british pattern at all, any help would be greatly appreciated. Ta for now.

I have no idea without having the pattern in my hot little hand. It would apear to be all the sts for the 2 fronts and the back on one needle but might be a struggle to fit them all on as you go further up.
I have just read it out loud to see if it made more sense and my hubby was listening and said....” get another pattern”.!!!! LOL  LOL

Is it a pattern that we could get hold of easily???  Then I could sit and have a good think about it, as it is it seems as clear as mud.

As far as I can see on the tiny pic there is no rib unless it is the button band they mean.

So sorry not to be more help. I often find that those sorts of patterns are just toooo much to bother with so I find something else. Not less difficult, just more understandable.

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Posted: 09 July 2008 03:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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I have just been for a read of the tubular st www. and it would appear to make an edge without the usual kn1 pl1 rib, with waste yarn that you then take out. As the pattern progresses you will be able to see it better. I suggest you start with the maths.www. that Leigh has posted as it looks like you need to really understand that method of working first.

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Posted: 09 July 2008 06:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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okay the tubular knitting is also known as invisble ribbing, which I am using on my latest project. Take the number of stitches you need for you project cast on half +1 so that you need 147 you would cast on 73 +1 with a different colour of wool as you say its something you take out.
Using contrast cast on 73+1
Row1:- k1 *yfwd k1* to end should give you 147sts
Row2:- K1 *yfwd sl1 ybk k1* rep to end
Row3:- Sl1 *fbk K1 yfwd sl1* rep to end
Repeat 2nd and 3rd row
Row6:- k1 P1 K1 to end
Row7:- P1 K1 P1 to end
It sounds as if you are working from front round back to front again
<- -> instead of bottom to top. The three stitch tubular at each end should give you a nice neat edge without having to do ant tidying after. Hope this is of some help to you. Its agreat way to cast on if you don’t want a tight or defined cast on.

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